9 questions for ACAC” (Australian Companion Animal Council)

The following is the text of a letter sent to the head of ACAC, the self proclaimed “peak body” for companion animals and the pet industry in Australia:

(This post should be read in conjunction with “who are ACAC?”)

You can download the letter here:  lttr_kseksel_ACAC_R2_Apr11, or read below!

Date 24 April 2011 President ACAC, Kirsty Seksel: Dear Ms Seksel

 Re Questions for ACAC concerning companion animals

Deathrowpets represents a large number of members of the community concerned with the number of unwanted companion animals that end up in pounds and shelters and the very significant numbers of these animals that are needlessly killed each year. I understand that you share these concerns.

 We note that your organisation professes to be the “peak body” concerning companion animals and the pet industry in Australia. Therefore I believe it appropriate to pass on to you some questions that our members are asking.

 These members, all have family pets (ourselves included with 3 dogs!) and we all spend a significant amount of money each year on pet industry related products and services – pet food, vet bills, kennelling, behaviour training etc.

 We consider ourselves to be firm supporters of the pet industry in this country. As such I would be confident that ACAC, as the self-proclaimed peak body for companion animals and the pet industry, would respond appropriately to the following questions.

 1 on the ACAC website you state that one of your objectives is to “provide an effective voice against those who oppose socially responsible companion animal ownership.”

 Question 1: Could you please advise who are these groups or people who oppose socially responsible companion animal ownership?

 It’s just that members of the pet industry keep going on about these groups, but no one knows who they are?

 2 Collection and analysis of national pound statistics

 In your presentation to the WA Cat Welfare & Management Symposium in September 2009 (1), we noted that you said we need data collection from Council pounds, nationally.”

 This echoes the views of the then CEO of the AVA, Mark Lawrie who wrote in 1996 : “It is my belief that the most important strategy that we can implement is to gather comprehensive national statistics and conduct proper analysis and research using those statistics to measure the effect of work that is currently being done”.(2)

 In the 15 years that have passed since Mr Lawrie wrote those lines, we are not aware of any efforts by the AVA, or other bodies, certainly not pet industry related bodies, to instigate such collection of national data.

 How can that be if this is “The most important strategy?

 As far as we are aware the only State in Australia to consistently collect council pound statistics is NSW. I have analysed and summarised these data now for the past 4 years and attach FYI the latest summary from the 09-10 year, together with the addition of data from the larger national charities for NSW.(3)

 We know that Victoria collects statistics via its DAMPS program for Councils, but we were informed by the Vic DPI that these figures are confidential (why?) and I have yet to acquire them via FOI.

 Thus I can comfortably say that the only publically available, detailed analysis of animals entering and leaving any State’s pound and shelter system is our own.

 So, to summarise. The need is clearly established, confirmed by yourself in public, and so we would like to know what is being done about it?

 Question 2: can you advise what steps you or ACAC have taken since your presentation in 2009 to influence State governments to collect these data? If no steps have been taken, can you advise what you will do in this matter. If this is underway, what is its status today?

Question 3: members of your organisation (eg Bob Croucher) are writing to people and saying:

 Whilst any euthanasia of animals for reasons of neglect or abandonment by owners is regrettable industry statistics suggest that the problem is not nearly as widespread as welfare groups and animal liberation supporters would have us believe”. (4)

 Will you advise please, given the evidence of the NSW collected statistics I am providing, how can the problem not be “as widespread as …….would have us believe”. Indeed, we would like to understand what is ACAC’s intent in messaging that the problem is “not as widespread” etc….

 I can only imagine that if Bob Croucher spent his weeks trying to save the dozen or so dogs or cats slated for killing on Friday morning at his local pound, he might have a different take on it.

 So. Exactly how bad does it have to be for you to consider it a “widespread” problem? What the ‘evidence-based’ reasoning is behind this? Is there a number?

4. We note that ACAC is holding its first think tank: “ACAC Strategy 2011” later this year

 ‘The topic is Putting pets back into our lives – how declining pet ownership is impacting our society and economy.’

Question 3: can you advise please how you envisage that this conference will address or create solutions to address the issue of the large number of unwanted companion animals in Australia that end up in the pound and shelter system and subsequently killed?. Specifically, what agenda items do you have planned that will address this issue?

 5 Submission by ACAC to Caroline Le Couteur MLA in regard of Greens proposed Bill Animal Welfare Legislation Amendment, 2010

 You state in your submission that ACAC’s reputation has been built by its focus on “evidence- based decision making”.

 Question 5: Could you explain please where exactly is the scientific evidence behind your statements:

 There is no evidence that there is overbreeding of companion animals by pet owners or breeders in Australia”.

 We can only assume that if there is no evidence of overbreeding, then you must have evidence to the contrary for your statement to be true. Ie you must have scientific evidence that the numbers bred across the country must be exactly appropriate for the level of demand. Could you cite that scientific evidence please.

 6 You state in your submission to Caroline le Couteur MLC, that  “ACAC believes that all suppliers of pets have a responsibility to do so in an ethical and responsible manner, regardless of whether they operate as a charitable organisation or a commercial entity.

Question 6: Could you please supply any data that you have regarding the numbers of animals entering the supply chain of pets that are bred by back yard breeders across the country and in what ways ACAC will seek to address this source of unregulated breeding and ensure that animals are supplied in an ethical and responsible manner?

 7 You state in your submission to Caroline le Couteur MLC that “encouragement of responsible pet acquisition etc are key platforms that ACAC support”

Question 7: We can only imagine that “encouragement of responsible acquisition” must involve providing potential owners with full and complete information about lifetime responsibilities and care together with associated costs for the animal. Please could you supply us with any ACAC document you have published that deals with this matter.

 We have read you document “the correct selection of dogs” and whilst this addresses to a degree the selection of the “right” type of dog via pointing to the pet selection website, it doesn’t specify anywhere at all the investments in time, money, care and responsibility that a guardian of an animal will need to invest in its lifetime. We are particularly interested in the advice you are giving potential owners on:

  • Amount of exercise required daily
  • Behaviour enrichment regime required
  • Costs annually associated with all requirements: food, bedding, vet care, training, kennelling etc
  • Integration into the family unit as a member of the family
  • How to avoid the many pitfalls that arise in life whereby owners, despite initial good intentions, take the option of “surrendering” the animal to a pound or shelter

 Finally can you advise please what scientific or statistical evidence you have that demonstrates that the strategy of encouraging responsible pet acquisition, appropriate health, socialisation and training needs,  is having or will have a measurable impact on the number of unwanted companion animals that enter pounds and shelters across the country? (note: intuitively, we can believe that it must have some positive impact and that this education is essential, but we can only assume that as an “evidence-based decision making” organisation, that you will have scientific “evidence” to support that position.

 As a general comment, it just seems to us that by reviewing the NSW published statistics over the past 4 years that there has not been any discernable difference.

 8. ACAC responsibility for unwanted companion animals 1

 You claim to be the peak body representing companion animals and the pet industry in Australia. As you are aware, there are massive numbers of unwanted companion animals and pets that enter the pound and shelter system each year and very many that are killed un-necessarily. By your claim we understand that you must obviously “represent” this constituency of companion animals as well

Question 8: can you advise what specific responsibility and actions you as head of, and your ACAC member groups are prepared to take, or have taken, for reducing the overall number of unwanted animals in the supply chain and for rehoming those that need new homes in pounds and shelters across the country?

 Question 9 ACAC responsibility for unwanted companion animals 2

Would ACAC be prepared to consider a levy on all members as a percentage of their revenues to contribute towards efforts by rescue and rehoming groups to significantly increase the rehoming rate of healthy and rehomable animals that find themselves in pounds and shelters each year?

 It would seem logical to many that with the volume of monies generated by your members in the pet industry, and as ACAC is the peak body representing companion animal ownership, it would be reasonable to expect ACAC members to contribute financially towards the efforts of rehoming the unwanted pets across the country. Currently the cost impost is generally borne by ratepayers in each Council, and charity donations, again from the public. It would seem reasonable to share that cost impost with those who profit from the pet trade, would you not agree?

 I would welcome your views on this proposal and look forward to hearing how this can be progressed.

 I look forward to hearing from you on these questions; I need to let you know that I will be sharing your information with our constituency.

 Thank you, Paul Archer


 1.   Dr. Kersti Seksel from the Australian Companion Animal Council speaks at the Western Australian Cat Welfare & Management Symposium, September 2009.

 2.   The issue of unwanted animals: Adopting a strategic and practical approach Mark Lawrie, Margaret Gaal, Ann Margret Withers, Isabelle Widdison and Magdoline Awad; Urban Animal Management Conference Proceedings 1996

 3.   Analysis of NSW council pound and charity statistics 2009-2010, February 2011; Deathrowpets; based on published annual NSW Council Statistics DLG and national charity shelters.

 4.   Bob Croucher, Director PIAA : email message to newspaper editor, April 11 2011

 DRP comments:

Well, as predicted, we didn’t get a reply, despite 2 reminders. In the years that we have been involved with this, those that have something to hide never reply to letters or requests for information. Let us know if you think the questions we asked of the “peak body” are reasonable or not. Do you think that the industry should provide dollars  to fund the unwanted companion animal issue?

Actions you can take:

Write to ACAC yourself. The email address is officer@acac.org.au

See if you can get any information from them. And if they bang on about “responsible pet ownership”, get them to spell out exactly what they mean. Don’t let them fob you off with motherhood statements! let us know how you go!


9 thoughts on “9 questions for ACAC” (Australian Companion Animal Council)

  1. Miles Heffernan June 29, 2011 / 4:15 pm

    Very fair points. It will be most interesting to see the responses.

  2. Industry Observer June 29, 2011 / 4:35 pm

    Paul – by the tone of your letter I’m not surprised you got no response. I’d hazard a guess that people rarely respond to your letters, if they are all written like this.

    Your self-styled internet vigilante approach will alienate those you wish to change.

    Just saying.

  3. Deathrowpets June 29, 2011 / 6:08 pm

    Thank you for your comment annonymous Industry Observer! Our experience has been that even when you write “nice letters” ……….they still won’t answer. Here is the bottom line – they don’t like the questions – no matter how pleasant and perfumed you make it.

    And what’s so hard about giving some straight answers to some straight questions???

    A golden opportunity for ACAC President to set the record straight – but she missed her chance. I will ask other readers to comment on whether my letter is overly aggressive or not. Paul

  4. Anne Greenwood June 29, 2011 / 11:58 pm

    Perfectly reasonable questions asked by Paul.

    They wont reply. My experience has taught me that if people have no ethics or professionalism they wont reply no matter how eloquently worded (or otherwise) the letter is.

    Industry Observer why don’t you leave a name? Or at least suggest a more polite way to write the letters so we can send them to ACAC where they will again be ignored.

  5. Mark Farrelley July 5, 2011 / 3:24 pm

    Congratulations Paul & Kathryn on your dedication to the animal welfare cause. I totally support your approach. I only wish there were more like you (1,000 + would be good), to have the willingness to ask the questions that must be asked. Far too many unwanted animals continue to lose their lives – with the people who possibly could make a difference just making a lot of noise. Maybe it should be compulsory for these people to spend a day at a pound watching animal after animal being euthanised. Let us speak for those who have no voice.

  6. Industry Observer August 17, 2011 / 10:53 pm


    My experience has been that even when presented with
    1. the opportunity for meaningful discussion, and
    2. independently verifiable facts,

    you will nevertheless insist on being antagonistic.

    Translation: you don’t write nice letters, because you’re incapable.

    Your conduct is that of an angry self-righteous self-entitled spoilt teenage princess.

    Meanwhile, the adults in the room are doing the hard yards and negotiating for improvement, not just taking pot shots from behind the safety of their PC.

    That’s why you will continue to be ignored by the very people you wish to change. So grow up, or move on.

    Just saying.

  7. Anne Greenaway August 18, 2011 / 12:00 am

    Industry Observer (aka “vested interest”)

    Re “Meanwhile, the adults in the room are doing the hard yards and negotiating for improvement”

    I’m interested to know what exactly it is that you are doing. Other than trolling on websites of those that genuinely care about improving the welfare of cats and dogs in Australia.

  8. Deathrowpets August 18, 2011 / 12:06 am

    “Meanwhile, the adults in the room are doing the hard yards and negotiating for improvement, not just taking pot shots from behind the safety of their PC.”……..???

    Just for the record, I have attended face to face meetings and sat in rooms in discussions with many of the “adults” you speak of. I did notice a certain bias they have towards protecting their businesses and hobby interests as being their prime motivation…

    just saying…

  9. Deathrowpets August 18, 2011 / 4:17 pm

    A note to readers: I was tempted to remove the comments by “industry observer” as we don’t tolerate comments with unnecessary personal attacks – whoever they are aimed at.

    However, in this case I will leave it, as it very nicely demonstrates just how desperate pet industry people have become over the justified focus the industry has been receiving. Those with vested interests and who don’t like the attention always “spit back” with venom.

    This individual has even deleted their email address to hide their tracks. Backyard Breeder? Puppy Farmer? Bad pet shop owner? We might never know… and who really cares anyway.

    We are not asking for much – stop the over-breeding and stop the numbers of animals entering pounds and shelters and killed unnecessarily. Then we’ll leave you alone.

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